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this is Ross coultart and you are

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hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO

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podcast my name is Andy definitely uh

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take two and joining me for a breakdown

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to discuss a few newsworthy notes from

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the last week in January 2023 is Dan Dan

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welcome

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hey hey uh I'm Wrecking my brain for a

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movie quote right now uh just just to

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use I I think I'll just use the quote

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bomb and see if people are cat get with

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the fairly recent show I would say

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there you go do not have watched the uh

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first episode of Last of Us in bits

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because I hate seeing stuff where kids

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get killed no spoilers

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um but yeah that's why I stopped

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watching War of the Worlds as well the

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that uh so many kids died in the remake

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of War of the Worlds and I get because

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of an alien invasion Lots

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killing the castle oh yeah

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um typhoid no the there was loads of

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kids deaths all the time and it was

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um but yeah anyways the a few news

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points to go over Dan uh we're going to

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done hopefully over the weekend for

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people for next week

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folks so their releases aren't slowing

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down it's just me and my old age that's

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it rough week but Dan

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um as your curiosity weaponized with a z

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letter big fan of the first episode of

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weaponize what did you think oh you got

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orb photograph that we'll touch on which

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UAP hearings by saying that you know

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journalism are reporting kind of works

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and I think this platform like you see

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gives them that chance that over a week

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two three four weeks they can come back

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to a story and see actually here's some

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follow-up you know I think one of the

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big things that I would expect and I'm

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sure Jeremy will be expecting himself I

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text him about this was that

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he gets a lot of things thrown at him

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from debunkers or Skeptics or even

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Believers asking questions to follow up

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and at least now he has the opportunity

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to come back and combat some of that

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stuff and again we're going to come to

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that but we speak about the orb aren't

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we

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um yeah it's a really good point

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um you know because we see Jeremy

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talking back to people all the time on

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Twitter but okay not on Twitter you're

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not going to see that context you know

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there was a really good one this week

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where someone said to him oh you said

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that hundreds of these these contacts

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swarmed these and he broke it down

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really simply he was like this is the

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amount of ships that were there you do

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the math and you could see basically

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that

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um you know we had the Omaha the Peralta

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the Russell the kid the Finn the

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Guildford The Bunker Hill the Hamilton

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the Pig pygmy or Pinckney and the

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Roosevelt you put 10 contacts over each

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of those which is purely reasonable you

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know that that's not some big sci-fi

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swarm or something

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um and they all add up over all of those

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ships at the same time to to you know 90

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hours your contacts so yeah you get you

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get context that paints these things is

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a little more subtle than the headlines

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uh would have you believe

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yeah it's a really good opportunity for

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for them to be following up on on that

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kind of information and that's that's

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what's exciting about it for me

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um a couple of things that stood out

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though for me was Jeremy mentioning that

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there are other UFO programs in the US

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government and hopes we find out about

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those now that's maybe a make drop for

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some people and for others it's just

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well of course there are other UFO

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programs in the government it wouldn't

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have just been atep or OSAP and other

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departments would have their own

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independent hidden away studies but I

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mean he said it deliberately you know it

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was very much a I know there are other

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programs and hopefully we find out about

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those

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um it doesn't come up too often though

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does it and our viewers I think we can

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focus so much on what we know which is

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awesome into atip then obviously arrow

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and my God the acronyms they even joke

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about the acronyms early on I think

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George Knapp has to say you know for

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those maybe the TMZ generation who are

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coming over from corbell's work are

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looking going what bass and arrow and it

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does and if you listen to this podcast

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and think sometimes you get lost in it I

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do as well I know Dan you sound like

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you're not a hell of a lot better than I

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do anything it's hard to remember them

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all right yeah it's it's like trying to

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get the original sugar babes line up and

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then go from there yeah just to you

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mentioned take that before get some old

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school pop recipes let's just get them

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all in I mean what is the Spice Girls

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one yeah oh they only had to line up in

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NJ left

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um but listen as I was saying the the

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programs aren't discussed do you think

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that's stuff that's likely to come out

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for me that's that's something Jeremy's

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got to kind of follow up on other UFO

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programs within the government

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yeah I think so you know we've got that

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secure system now we've heard that

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people are going to be testifying into

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that uh people but we haven't heard the

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names of

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um I would expect that they're clue in

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in these committees and and

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representatives to these programs I

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think the the number we've heard from

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Jeremy before is that there are four

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Legacy programs and I would expect that

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those four Legacy programs are each

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looking at a different area

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um so you know if you've got a program

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in the Air Force they're going to be

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looking at how these ships can can help

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them fly if you're looking at something

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from the dod they're probably looking at

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you know how the technology can help

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them in a defensive way or an offensive

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way you know they're going to be looking

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at like weapon systems or propulsion or

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something else

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um but

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what's great now about all the efforts

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that we have that we know about is that

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they they don't kind of contain their

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information like that you know the

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people that study the engine will talk

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to the people that study the the walk

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bubble if there is one you know

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um so did you pick up on the exchange

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Jeremy and George had around that

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whistleblower legislation because Jeremy

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mentions you know about the legislation

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and whistleblowers coming forward you

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know who's going to come forward from a

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program like Lockheed or a place at

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Lockheed for example and talk about what

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they know

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like we was like well we yeah we do know

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who's going to come forward and Jeremy

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went well yeah actually so that was

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another little thing that was touched on

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but skipped over

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um

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pointed out so so much you know even if

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you go back to I think it was Indiana

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Jones there was like this big Warehouse

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with all the artifacts in it yeah

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and Spielberg just keeps throwing back

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to Lockheed having something to to hide

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essentially

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uh so I would expect that like others

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that one of these programs or some of

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these programs are in Private Industry

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and that's how they keep them away from

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foia

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yeah at the end of the podcast the the

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talk about the muscle orb so this was

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from Iraq in April 2016. now if you're

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on social media the last few days it's

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probably been the big talking point

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Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp have

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released a still image from what's meant

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to be a four second

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excuse me a four second video

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now if I'm correct Dan and I think I am

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they have never said that they've seen

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the video they're just saying that the

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image is from a four second video which

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apparently this metal ball or metal

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sphere as it appears and in the middle

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of a street from like a if you're

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listening to this on audio it's like a

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Google map street view looking down from

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like Eagle's eye view and there's our

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metal sphere

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now let's just take it at first it is a

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sphere Jeremy's saying it's from a four

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second video it was flying alongside

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this reconnaissance aircraft U.S

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military and this is still from the

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video we've not seen the video

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others are saying when you look at it it

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could potentially be the Reflection from

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a puddle on the ground

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um

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and I can't disagree that when that was

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put to me I said ah yeah maybe

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however to bring it back Mick West

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was asked about it and I believe he even

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said himself I saw it on someone's

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Twitter feed that it couldn't be the

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reflection of the sun because of the

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angle the aircraft had been at and the

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angle of the Sun at that day it wouldn't

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have reflected in such a way so here we

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are

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right yeah but that's that's what he's

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meant to do so yeah absolutely right and

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this this is a good example of where

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Mech is you know he's he's got his head

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screwed on uh the the issue people have

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is when it comes to talking about

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witness testimony that he just pushes

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aside things like this you know he's

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good at working out puzzles and problems

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and yeah you're right like he explained

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that the angle that the plane's at it

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wouldn't reflect in that way

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how would I want this I'm going to use

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the way you have came back on that as

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the general response right and I'm not

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saying I yes agree or agree with you

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sure but if someone leveled at you you

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can't just accept Mick West doing the

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work being good this time because it

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fits what you believe

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as opposed to when it doesn't

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that we would say well he doesn't want

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it to be that because who's to say he's

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not wrong in this case and it could be a

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puddle and he's just got it wrong at one

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one minute he's a video game developer

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the next minute he's a you know Sun

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possession specialist

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so I could see why people if someone's

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listening to this and I know people sat

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on different areas of it could be like

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oh well you can't just disagree with him

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one moment and agree the next but

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yeah it still could be a reflection it

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still could be a water droplet on the

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screen unlikely

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it could be a metal sphere flying along

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come back on the Midwest point for me if

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I stand and then I'll ask you something

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else

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yeah sure so

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um you know

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makes makes hypothesis are what they are

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I always say to people you know fair

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enough if you don't or engage with him

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um but it's always worth considering

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what the kind of the debunkers and the

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Skeptics are saying because you kind of

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get to balance things when you do that

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don't just listen to the Believers who

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instantly say oh yeah this is something

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anomalous and you know they'll tell you

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that it's from the Pleiades system and

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so on so forth

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um don't just listen to one side of

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those take take all of those things in

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and just hold them lightly you know

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chances are and and last week

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definitively see

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you know this this orb returning to a

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planet out there or you know going back

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to a Mothership will probably never know

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that it's just anything more than an

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anomalous thing

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um but this is kind of where we are with

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it there's just this big pile of data of

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of question marks

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um that kind of seemingly leading to or

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or like you you like say your puzzle

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analogy right like we've got enough

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pieces that we're like yeah there's

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something there's something strange in

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the middle of this picture and we're

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kind of building it as we go but you

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have to take in all sides and and

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consider them at least uh I think for

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this or just just to build on that we

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need the video

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either people message me about this who

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do podcasts on other topics and and such

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and I've maybe been on their podcast and

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chatting about UFOs and they've asked me

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about it and they've largely said the

549
00:19:03,230 --> 00:19:01,080
same thing of where's the video

550
00:19:05,390 --> 00:19:03,240
and that's it it's like yeah well we

551
00:19:07,010 --> 00:19:05,400
need that video because right now to go

552
00:19:09,049 --> 00:19:07,020
back to the jigsaw puzzle analogy then

553
00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:09,059
we've got we've got the jigsaw complete

554
00:19:12,650 --> 00:19:10,320
there's the picture

555
00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:12,660
but does the front of the box say metal

556
00:19:16,970 --> 00:19:14,480
sphere floating above ground

557
00:19:20,090 --> 00:19:16,980
puddle with some reflecting off it and

558
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:20,100
it's usually for Iraq reflective puddle

559
00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:23,039
scene yeah yeah yeah exactly it's like

560
00:19:27,230 --> 00:19:25,500
we need the video and I would love to

561
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:27,240
hear Jeremy clear up have you seen the

562
00:19:31,850 --> 00:19:29,760
video or are you saying you've spoken to

563
00:19:34,010 --> 00:19:31,860
someone who has seen the video correct

564
00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:34,020
me if I'm wrong Jeremy released uh with

565
00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:37,320
the Omaha sphere he he released stills

566
00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:38,700
of that first because I remember putting

567
00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:40,260
a couple of Stills together to kind of

568
00:19:46,610 --> 00:19:42,720
try and figure out you know the motion

569
00:19:48,350 --> 00:19:46,620
from it yeah um so yeah I'm kind of more

570
00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:48,360
of the side of I think he's probably

571
00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:50,640
seen the video and he chose a screenshot

572
00:19:55,370 --> 00:19:52,980
from it to share uh but for me the the

573
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:55,380
frustration comes from you know take

574
00:19:58,190 --> 00:19:56,640
take the frame after all the frame

575
00:20:00,110 --> 00:19:58,200
before it's over that hole in the road

576
00:20:01,090 --> 00:20:00,120
just so we can see that it's not related

577
00:20:03,710 --> 00:20:01,100
you know

578
00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:03,720
right and this is and if anyone's

579
00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:05,520
thought I'm rambling on this it's again

580
00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:07,679
because I am extremely sleep deprived

581
00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:09,240
okay so hopefully I've made sense and

582
00:20:12,350 --> 00:20:10,620
I've forgotten half of my phone all

583
00:20:13,610 --> 00:20:12,360
Lobster Dan already but I've just

584
00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:13,620
remembered something that I thought of

585
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:14,940
at the time when I was watching the

586
00:20:18,289 --> 00:20:15,840
podcast

587
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:18,299
do you think a lot of of what Jeremy

588
00:20:21,770 --> 00:20:20,400
Corbell does and I suppose I could lump

589
00:20:22,970 --> 00:20:21,780
George Knapp in with it in that sense

590
00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:22,980
that they're working on this together

591
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:25,080
but it seems to be very much Jeremy

592
00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:26,820
style and approach how they get their

593
00:20:30,590 --> 00:20:28,500
stuff out

594
00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:30,600
it's when it's like when people see a

595
00:20:34,730 --> 00:20:32,940
movie trailer and they judge what the

596
00:20:36,169 --> 00:20:34,740
end product is going to be just off the

597
00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:36,179
back of the trailer I'm a lot we're all

598
00:20:39,529 --> 00:20:38,039
guilty of it some people don't like to

599
00:20:40,970 --> 00:20:39,539
see the trailers and they won't even

600
00:20:42,650 --> 00:20:40,980
watch them I've got a friend who does

601
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:42,660
that and they'll wait and see the final

602
00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:45,840
product Jeremy likes to release a lot of

603
00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:47,940
movie trailers and then you have to wait

604
00:20:51,049 --> 00:20:49,980
for the end product down the line and

605
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:51,059
even then you're still going to be

606
00:20:55,789 --> 00:20:52,559
potentially undecided you might change

607
00:20:58,730 --> 00:20:55,799
your mind or not but it just seems to me

608
00:21:00,049 --> 00:20:58,740
that this is this is a trailer and

609
00:21:01,490 --> 00:21:00,059
already we're all Jumper in the back of

610
00:21:04,970 --> 00:21:01,500
it saying Chris Pratt shouldn't be the

611
00:21:06,590 --> 00:21:04,980
voice of Mario however the the End movie

612
00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:06,600
we might come out of it and go actually

613
00:21:09,950 --> 00:21:08,340
I really enjoyed that and that was

614
00:21:11,450 --> 00:21:09,960
useful that was you know that was

615
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:11,460
informative that was entertaining

616
00:21:15,770 --> 00:21:13,919
whatever it might be and I just think we

617
00:21:17,330 --> 00:21:15,780
get a lot of preloads from Jeremy that

618
00:21:18,770 --> 00:21:17,340
I've said before and I don't mean it's

619
00:21:21,470 --> 00:21:18,780
in a derogatory way and I don't think he

620
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:21,480
would take it this way he he would be

621
00:21:26,990 --> 00:21:24,000
the great face of the UFO subject for

622
00:21:28,610 --> 00:21:27,000
TMZ you know which is still quite a big

623
00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:28,620
news organization whether people like

624
00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:30,299
that or not in terms of the reach they

625
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:32,580
have and the audience they have but he

626
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:35,520
has that presentation and Flair and in a

627
00:21:39,230 --> 00:21:37,140
social media age where people want short

628
00:21:41,210 --> 00:21:39,240
Snappy bang there's a picture with a

629
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,220
headline of 10 words and they make a

630
00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:43,200
make a conclusion off the back of it not

631
00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:46,440
always entirely useful but it works and

632
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,700
I just think maybe that's what we've got

633
00:21:51,169 --> 00:21:49,440
a bit of here because it did get picked

634
00:21:52,990 --> 00:21:51,179
up off of a lot of major news networks

635
00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:53,000
TMZ

636
00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:55,740
yeah and a whole feature on it as well I

637
00:22:00,110 --> 00:21:57,059
don't doubt Jeremy's got connections

638
00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:00,120
here but it seems to me that we really

639
00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:02,280
need the video here to go alongside this

640
00:22:06,890 --> 00:22:05,100
just to show us as that object moving

641
00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:06,900
and you know what for what what worries

642
00:22:10,669 --> 00:22:08,700
me is it we know it's a four second

643
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,679
video done and that the four second

644
00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:12,480
video comes out and we go oh it doesn't

645
00:22:15,470 --> 00:22:14,100
look like it's moving or it's

646
00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:15,480
inconclusive

647
00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:17,340
well when we talk about the speed that

648
00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:19,260
these things move right the the frame

649
00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:21,900
that we've seen could be the only frame

650
00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:23,580
in those four seconds that contains the

651
00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:26,580
sphere for all year right uh so yeah

652
00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:28,559
we've got to be ready for that but I I

653
00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:29,940
think you're totally right Jeremy knows

654
00:22:33,409 --> 00:22:31,380
how to tell a story he knows how to

655
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:33,419
present it in this modern day and

656
00:22:39,409 --> 00:22:36,960
there's there's probably an aspect of

657
00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:39,419
when when Jeremy releases something you

658
00:22:43,490 --> 00:22:41,100
know you and I and people in the

659
00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:43,500
community we pour over it we we you know

660
00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:45,059
we find the location we try and figure

661
00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:46,740
it out like

662
00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:48,840
most people don't do that most people

663
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:50,460
will just kind of like you said when you

664
00:22:53,149 --> 00:22:51,780
talk about journalism they'll read the

665
00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:53,159
first paragraph or just see the headline

666
00:22:57,950 --> 00:22:55,740
and move on with their lives so

667
00:23:00,590 --> 00:22:57,960
kind of Doling out the story you know

668
00:23:02,930 --> 00:23:00,600
piecemeal over a few weeks is is almost

669
00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:02,940
better for casual people when it comes

670
00:23:05,930 --> 00:23:04,260
to the subject because they get to

671
00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:05,940
actually go oh yeah there was a sphere

672
00:23:09,169 --> 00:23:07,260
oh yeah I remember seeing this video

673
00:23:10,669 --> 00:23:09,179
last week you've got testimony now okay

674
00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:10,679
interesting maybe I'll listen to that

675
00:23:14,750 --> 00:23:12,780
four minute testimony and it can build a

676
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,760
picture in a slower way that is

677
00:23:19,549 --> 00:23:16,559
frustrating to people who who follow

678
00:23:21,649 --> 00:23:19,559
this every second of the day but to you

679
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:21,659
know uh mama you know you often like to

680
00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:23,880
say about Susan that you know she's not

681
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,700
always completely on board but the

682
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:29,039
curiosity is there it can serve people

683
00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:30,960
that with a more kind of casual interest

684
00:23:37,549 --> 00:23:34,500
in it uh so yeah Jeremy I think is is

685
00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:37,559
serving them and because of how the

686
00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:40,679
media reacted to this uh I I can see

687
00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:42,780
it's kind of like a No Child Left Behind

688
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:44,700
thing uh where everyone kind of needs to

689
00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:46,260
be on board so you know smaller

690
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,880
bite-sized pieces are better for the

691
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:49,200
Casual people

692
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:50,940
yeah that's why I'm releasing a new

693
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:52,799
weekly interview series which is 15

694
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,159
seconds long okay

695
00:23:59,930 --> 00:23:58,559
catch the tech talk generation here

696
00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:59,940
um but yeah that's that's I mean it's

697
00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:02,240
not unrealistic is it to be fair no no

698
00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:04,620
at the end of it they do mention that

699
00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:06,900
going forward and I think this didn't

700
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,760
surprise me because you talked about we

701
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,320
don't know the regularity yet it sounds

702
00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:12,419
like it's going to be weekly doesn't it

703
00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:14,520
um but they mentioned that it's not

704
00:24:19,549 --> 00:24:16,500
going to be just UFOs they're going to

705
00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:19,559
look into conspiracy theories true crime

706
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,480
science and just any kind of stories

707
00:24:26,810 --> 00:24:23,520
that Jerry mccorbell says you know

708
00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:26,820
weaponize has curiosity uh just to annoy

709
00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:28,200
those people who hate that phrase and

710
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:29,460
obviously drop it in there for those who

711
00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:30,480
love it

712
00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:32,100
um but yeah that's that's that's pretty

713
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:34,440
understandable isn't it and if they're

714
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,360
again Jeremy Corbell has a pretty

715
00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:37,919
sizable audience not just to do with

716
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,280
UFOs so they're kind of capitalizing on

717
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,200
that and True Crime is a really big

718
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:45,120
thing just now especially any True Crime

719
00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:47,760
podcast or Series so so yeah I look

720
00:24:49,850 --> 00:24:49,080
forward to going to seeing what comes up

721
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:49,860
in

722
00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:54,240
out of of different episodes and shows

723
00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:56,700
as to does it interest me or not um but

724
00:24:59,390 --> 00:24:58,260
yeah ultimately I'm really glad that

725
00:25:01,250 --> 00:24:59,400
they are they're putting that out there

726
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:01,260
and putting it together and uh seeing

727
00:25:06,169 --> 00:25:04,260
what's what yeah same it's a it's a

728
00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:06,179
really excellent show and I'm excited to

729
00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:08,039
see what they do the the stuff with the

730
00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:09,659
conspiracies it makes me wonder if

731
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,820
because Jeremy is really all about you

732
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,200
know he is a broad map for the

733
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:15,360
Paranormal and the supernatural but

734
00:25:19,970 --> 00:25:17,159
um you know his main thing is is kind of

735
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,980
UFOs so I wonder if the conspiracy stuff

736
00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:21,600
they're going to talk about are things

737
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,880
like Operation Paperclip you know where

738
00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:25,919
we brought over Nazi scientists and and

739
00:25:28,850 --> 00:25:27,480
they'll talk about and dispel some of

740
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:28,860
the myths there

741
00:25:32,029 --> 00:25:30,539
um as well as informing people that this

742
00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:32,039
is stuff that really happened if they

743
00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:34,919
can if they can build a good picture uh

744
00:25:39,529 --> 00:25:36,779
by including those broader conspiracies

745
00:25:42,169 --> 00:25:39,539
uh I I think they they stand to inform

746
00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:42,179
and educate a lot of casual audience

747
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,320
members

748
00:25:48,049 --> 00:25:45,840
I think it'll go more out there

749
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:48,059
I think they'll go proper

750
00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:51,539
really conspiratorial and

751
00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:53,880
yeah I I just I just don't think it'll

752
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:55,260
be that conservative I know what you're

753
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,400
saying

754
00:26:00,649 --> 00:25:58,080
um almost like early basement office

755
00:26:02,990 --> 00:26:00,659
style when they would do like

756
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:03,000
I I think it'll go a lot more I could

757
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:04,320
just see Jeremy really wanting to go

758
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:05,520
into like Luke

759
00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:08,240
did Sasquatch have a baby with you know

760
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:11,880
a reptilian and nah maybe not that much

761
00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:13,500
but yeah I think it'll be interesting to

762
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:16,140
see anyway and um long may continue uh

763
00:26:18,830 --> 00:26:17,760
because there's never too much and it's

764
00:26:20,090 --> 00:26:18,840
always nice you've got to pick and

765
00:26:22,010 --> 00:26:20,100
choose what you want to watch and listen

766
00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:22,020
to as well and it's better to have more

767
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:23,700
choice or too much Choice than not

768
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,640
enough so yeah absolutely um just to

769
00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:28,080
touch on before we move on because I can

770
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:29,340
sense we're kind of rap in this section

771
00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:31,140
is just to say you know this testimony

772
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,299
included in this episode from someone

773
00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:36,240
that was uh on one of the ships during

774
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:38,760
the 2019 swarm events that the Pentagon

775
00:26:43,549 --> 00:26:40,980
have said were just drones

776
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,559
um the testimony from this person uh

777
00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:45,600
basically blows that out the water says

778
00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:47,640
that you know these contacts had uh

779
00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:49,320
beams of light coming from them and they

780
00:26:53,149 --> 00:26:50,940
were hovering over the deck

781
00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:53,159
um and that they yeah they would kind of

782
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,539
if we're talking drones we're not

783
00:27:00,110 --> 00:26:57,600
talking DJI mavic things uh one of the

784
00:27:02,510 --> 00:27:00,120
curious things that the person said was

785
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:02,520
that they came the drones came from the

786
00:27:05,710 --> 00:27:04,260
direction of Hawaii so we're talking

787
00:27:08,269 --> 00:27:05,720
Open Water

788
00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:08,279
1800 miles I think is the quality yeah

789
00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:10,260
that's right like it really far away

790
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:12,900
from the coast and when when they left

791
00:27:17,149 --> 00:27:14,880
they went in a different direction so it

792
00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:17,159
doesn't seem like they're returning to a

793
00:27:21,289 --> 00:27:19,080
a home base like most drones would need

794
00:27:22,909 --> 00:27:21,299
to do so whatever's happening there

795
00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:22,919
that's a really serious piece of

796
00:27:26,210 --> 00:27:24,120
information

797
00:27:27,529 --> 00:27:26,220
right okay I wanted to wrap up on that

798
00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:27,539
point and move on to the next one but

799
00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:29,220
I'm not going to and I'm going to try

800
00:27:33,169 --> 00:27:31,500
and again expand on this because this

801
00:27:35,390 --> 00:27:33,179
came to me as well when I was watching

802
00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:35,400
it right and again folks apologize I'm

803
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:38,220
saying that's in a bit of a tired state

804
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:41,520
those really really easy ways though for

805
00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:44,760
for that stuff to be

806
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:46,440
for them to work out if these are

807
00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:47,940
anomalous or not because essentially

808
00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:49,740
what it comes down to is are these alien

809
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:51,720
or are they not and if we're alien and

810
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,640
the broad scope of crypto Ultra

811
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:54,720
terrestrial all that kind of stuff

812
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:56,640
doesn't matter are the alien or the

813
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,260
human now

814
00:28:01,789 --> 00:28:00,240
you have to and I know some people hate

815
00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:01,799
this but you have to allow for the fact

816
00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:03,900
that technology or secret Tech from the

817
00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:06,600
US China Russia Etc has gotten to the

818
00:28:10,610 --> 00:28:08,580
point that drones maybe can go for

819
00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:10,620
longer periods of time than were led to

820
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,419
believe right so there's no reason to

821
00:28:15,289 --> 00:28:13,919
say that you know what why couldn't

822
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,299
China have a drone that can literally

823
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,799
fly around the earth and back to China

824
00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:18,960
without you know stopping maybe it can

825
00:28:27,230 --> 00:28:24,409
if these these objects have been said to

826
00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:27,240
have traveled 1800 miles then all you

827
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,580
have to do is track them back to where

828
00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:31,440
they're going now if these objects fly

829
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,419
up into space and out into outer space

830
00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:35,279
or behind the moon it's probably not

831
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,320
China or Russia if they go underwater

832
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:39,120
deep into some base somewhere off

833
00:28:42,890 --> 00:28:41,100
Catalina it's probably not China or

834
00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:42,900
Russia however

835
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:44,700
we've got the tech we know we have the

836
00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:46,080
tech to trace these things and follow

837
00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:48,360
them so surely when these things that

838
00:28:51,769 --> 00:28:50,039
Omaha event was at three days they

839
00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:51,779
happened over hundreds they said swarmed

840
00:28:56,269 --> 00:28:54,900
over three days or incidents it was a

841
00:28:57,649 --> 00:28:56,279
couple of months like there were a few

842
00:28:59,390 --> 00:28:57,659
events over a couple of months but yeah

843
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,400
right contained within those it was over

844
00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:01,440
several days right yeah swarms of

845
00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:04,140
hundreds so surely to God they they

846
00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:06,900
followed one of these or a swarm of them

847
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:09,720
and tracked them back to allocation or

848
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,460
they lose them at a point because they

849
00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:13,919
leave the atmosphere and for me that's

850
00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:15,480
the kind of information that probably

851
00:29:18,889 --> 00:29:17,340
gets then answered and classified

852
00:29:21,049 --> 00:29:18,899
briefings where you hear about the

853
00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:21,059
incident in an unclassified version it

854
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,740
goes behind closed doors and that's

855
00:29:27,529 --> 00:29:24,960
where a multi abray or others involved

856
00:29:30,289 --> 00:29:27,539
Dr Sean Kirkpatrick say okay so we

857
00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:30,299
talked about this event before we did

858
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:32,279
then using this piece of technology

859
00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:33,960
which is highly sophisticated that we

860
00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:35,220
don't have out in the public Arena

861
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:37,140
managed to track these back to our

862
00:29:41,149 --> 00:29:38,760
Province off of China

863
00:29:42,529 --> 00:29:41,159
okay cool it's Chinese Tech we don't

864
00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:42,539
want the public knowing we know this and

865
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:44,580
that China know this or that's where

866
00:29:48,649 --> 00:29:46,620
they say as we hope and you've got to

867
00:29:50,029 --> 00:29:48,659
say we hope actually we track these

868
00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:50,039
objects going out to this point in the

869
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:52,380
ocean half of them then shot up into the

870
00:29:55,490 --> 00:29:53,760
sky at a ridiculous speed to actually

871
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,500
tracked here and they flew off into

872
00:29:59,330 --> 00:29:58,080
space and half of them at underwater and

873
00:30:00,830 --> 00:29:59,340
we lost them

874
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,840
that's where the more interesting

875
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:02,640
conversations come out but that's the

876
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:04,140
kind of stuff that we don't hear and

877
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:05,520
it's probably I'm guessing what happens

878
00:30:09,769 --> 00:30:07,919
in these Behind Closed Aubry things you

879
00:30:11,630 --> 00:30:09,779
you would hope so you know I hope

880
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:11,640
they're not taking kind of conclusions

881
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:14,520
that were done by people online

882
00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:16,620
um or theories that were were brought up

883
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:18,059
by people online and kind of applying

884
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,919
those and saying yeah you're taking you

885
00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:21,360
know are you taking that from what they

886
00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:23,940
said about uh Moultrie and Bray when

887
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:25,260
they were asked about

888
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:27,419
the

889
00:30:37,010 --> 00:30:34,980
yeah aware of studies that have been

890
00:30:38,930 --> 00:30:37,020
done not we've conducted studies right

891
00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:38,940
like I I would want these people to be

892
00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:40,860
starting from scratch not you know and

893
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,140
the point of that video as well isn't

894
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:45,360
that they were triangular the point is

895
00:30:49,370 --> 00:30:47,220
that these mysterious contacts were

896
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:49,380
violating the the space of the ship and

897
00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:50,760
the airspace of the United States of

898
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,020
America

899
00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:54,960
um and they they couldn't tell An Origin

900
00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:56,580
you know you'd hope that they follow

901
00:31:00,409 --> 00:30:59,159
them and have a bit more information

902
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:00,419
um so there are a whole bunch of

903
00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:02,399
questions still there around that

904
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,340
sighting and I I liked what you said

905
00:31:09,950 --> 00:31:07,440
about uh the the technology level

906
00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:09,960
because you know yes there were drones

907
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,940
for sure that can last for longer than

908
00:31:15,769 --> 00:31:13,679
we can search for on the internet and

909
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:15,779
find yes there are you know there are

910
00:31:20,090 --> 00:31:18,240
drones videos of drones online that will

911
00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:20,100
transition from air to water they take a

912
00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:21,720
second to do so but if that's the stuff

913
00:31:26,330 --> 00:31:23,700
we're seeing chances are that's really

914
00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:26,340
well developed capability yeah for for

915
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,020
some places

916
00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:30,840
um but then at the same time

917
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,000
I I think I've said this before it's

918
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:36,000
kind of ingenious if they use

919
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:37,740
the fact that these are normally

920
00:31:41,570 --> 00:31:40,200
anomalies exist to kind of go okay we're

921
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:41,580
gonna have some drones over and we're

922
00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:42,720
gonna make them behave really really

923
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,860
strange we're going to make them come

924
00:31:48,409 --> 00:31:46,080
from Hawaii and then when they fly off

925
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:48,419
we know that the US is radar ceiling

926
00:31:51,950 --> 00:31:50,220
it's 80 000 feet so let's make the

927
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:51,960
drones go to 80 000 feet and then they

928
00:31:54,769 --> 00:31:53,340
can just drop into the ocean and shut

929
00:31:56,029 --> 00:31:54,779
off they'll never find them they think

930
00:31:58,250 --> 00:31:56,039
they've gone to space they think there's

931
00:32:00,430 --> 00:31:58,260
something else so 8 000 feet and then

932
00:32:03,169 --> 00:32:00,440
blow them up you know self-destructure

933
00:32:04,669 --> 00:32:03,179
precisely and that's the idea with these

934
00:32:06,769 --> 00:32:04,679
grounds right like the drones are

935
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:06,779
cheaper so they can be used in different

936
00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:09,600
ways to than Conventional Weapons so

937
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,520
there's plenty of kind of I guess we

938
00:32:15,049 --> 00:32:12,720
would call that a signature management

939
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:15,059
you know give giving away an impression

940
00:32:18,889 --> 00:32:16,860
that that it's something that it's not

941
00:32:21,289 --> 00:32:18,899
and that that even comes from the other

942
00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:21,299
side too there's this idea that there's

943
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,940
a species that's been with us for ages

944
00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:25,919
um that kind of hides from us and that

945
00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:27,960
they want us to think that they are from

946
00:32:31,730 --> 00:32:29,880
out there in space when actually they're

947
00:32:33,289 --> 00:32:31,740
from here on Earth and and by making

948
00:32:34,850 --> 00:32:33,299
themselves look like they're from out

949
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:34,860
there it means we're not searching for

950
00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:37,140
them so they could be plenty of reasons

951
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,580
for this kind of signature management

952
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:41,039
and it's really intriguing uh I I can't

953
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,360
wait to hear more about this case

954
00:32:46,850 --> 00:32:44,399
because like I say

955
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:46,860
it the testimony is already

956
00:32:51,289 --> 00:32:49,200
casting doubt on on what the DoD said

957
00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:51,299
about it and the more testimony we hear

958
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:52,980
the more media coverage we'll get which

959
00:32:57,710 --> 00:32:55,440
seems pretty favorable at the moment uh

960
00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:57,720
and the better puzzle that we get to

961
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,120
build together so yeah I'm looking

962
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:02,159
forward to seeing where this goes

963
00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:04,260
absolutely moving on then to a couple

964
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:05,640
other stories worth touching on that

965
00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:06,960
went a hell of a lot longer than I

966
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:08,520
thought but you know at least it wasn't

967
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:10,080
a five minute show

968
00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:13,320
um PJ Hughes who was on the podcast got

969
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,240
about 18 months ago maybe more now with

970
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:17,760
Gary Voorhees and Kevin day

971
00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:19,320
um and a round table are done back then

972
00:33:22,730 --> 00:33:21,059
that was really good check out folks if

973
00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:22,740
you if I do say so myself

974
00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:24,840
um he was an avionics technician which

975
00:33:28,250 --> 00:33:26,700
was someone who repairs and maintains

976
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,260
Electronics equipment onboard the

977
00:33:31,850 --> 00:33:30,480
aircraft involved with the Nimitz and

978
00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:31,860
the Princeton

979
00:33:35,090 --> 00:33:32,700
um

980
00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:35,100
PJ popped on Twitter after taking a

981
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:36,419
little bit of a break to make some

982
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:38,760
comments about the incident and largely

983
00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:40,799
for me then I picked up focused on the

984
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:44,760
readings that were taken by the East e2c

985
00:33:47,630 --> 00:33:46,320
Hawkeye

986
00:33:51,049 --> 00:33:47,640
um some of it was a little bit cryptic

987
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:51,059
to hpj quite funnily and fair enough he

988
00:33:54,169 --> 00:33:52,559
said you know if you don't like this

989
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,179
then deal with it he doesn't really care

990
00:33:58,850 --> 00:33:56,159
but I'd rather people came out and

991
00:34:00,590 --> 00:33:58,860
talked around ndas and clearances that

992
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,600
didn't see anything at all

993
00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:02,880
um he basically said the e2c Hawkeye

994
00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:04,860
that was Airborne for The Intercept of

995
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:07,380
the Tic Tac so the for those again and I

996
00:34:10,430 --> 00:34:09,119
am military I'm not military at all like

997
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,440
you know I'm a Layman

998
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:12,000
um big aircraft that was up in the sky

999
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:14,220
with lots of sensor systems during the

1000
00:34:20,089 --> 00:34:17,159
time uh basically tracked and recorded

1001
00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:20,099
electronic signals from the objects one

1002
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:22,740
of them flew pgl edges and I've heard

1003
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:25,020
this before 30 to 40 feet from the

1004
00:34:29,329 --> 00:34:27,179
aircraft you know we also hear that

1005
00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:29,339
there are there are good images of that

1006
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,659
which is the good stuff that we don't

1007
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:32,879
get to see if something gets that close

1008
00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:34,679
and even a pilot took a picture of it

1009
00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:36,659
from 30 or 40 feet that would be a hell

1010
00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:39,060
of a good picture even with a 2004 phone

1011
00:34:44,329 --> 00:34:41,399
camera but I reckon some better cameras

1012
00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:44,339
would have got images or video of that

1013
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:46,139
um what I found interesting though Dan

1014
00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:47,760
was the signals were not able to be

1015
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,280
determined by the extensive database of

1016
00:34:55,609 --> 00:34:53,760
signals the system had so this plane has

1017
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,619
sensors that pick up all kinds of

1018
00:34:59,230 --> 00:34:57,359
different signals and frequencies and

1019
00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:59,240
what may or may not be doing it outside

1020
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,800
and it couldn't figure out what was what

1021
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,320
was being said apparently the raw data

1022
00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:06,240
was stored on the bricks the the storage

1023
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,980
units that were then infamously taken

1024
00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:09,359
from the ship

1025
00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:11,880
so what were your thoughts on this then

1026
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:13,380
in terms of what PJ's coming out and

1027
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,560
saying really interesting you know PJ's

1028
00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:18,720
kind of alluded to this before and

1029
00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:20,940
he he can't kind of elaborate on you

1030
00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:22,680
know how big the signal bank is and

1031
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,540
stuff like that for the Hawkeye systems

1032
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:26,640
but he did say that the previous

1033
00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:29,760
generation had a bank of 250 essentially

1034
00:35:34,670 --> 00:35:32,460
fingerprints for technology so the

1035
00:35:36,589 --> 00:35:34,680
Hawkeye could scan an F-18 and instantly

1036
00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:36,599
just go cool that's the electromagnetic

1037
00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:38,780
signature of an F18 that's what that is

1038
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:42,060
this generation has a database that's so

1039
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:43,500
much bigger than that

1040
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:44,640
um and you've got to think you know with

1041
00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:46,500
all the money that America are putting

1042
00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:48,900
into these systems and defense the

1043
00:35:53,329 --> 00:35:51,060
chances are pretty much everything on

1044
00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:53,339
the planet uh would be cataloged in

1045
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:54,780
there that is known about whether it's

1046
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:56,880
secret Chinese Tech if America knows

1047
00:36:00,589 --> 00:35:58,500
about it that signature is in there

1048
00:36:03,170 --> 00:36:00,599
right that fingerprint is in there then

1049
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:03,180
it appears that when the Tic Tac was

1050
00:36:08,089 --> 00:36:05,640
right by their plane they got a really

1051
00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:08,099
good scan of it and the system just went

1052
00:36:13,609 --> 00:36:10,200
nope this isn't anything that I know

1053
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:13,619
about and so it kind of paints this

1054
00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:15,180
picture that it's something a lot

1055
00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:19,140
Stranger Than Just secret Tech uh PJ

1056
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:21,780
also kind of alluded that it was down

1057
00:36:26,589 --> 00:36:24,660
the radio microwave kind of end of the

1058
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:26,599
the Spectrum

1059
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:30,000
but that kind of data is is going to be

1060
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:31,740
vital because it shows there was

1061
00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:34,560
something there uh especially that it

1062
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,660
overlaps with the Spy one radar and the

1063
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:39,119
Hawkeye the Hawkeye's kind of job is to

1064
00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:40,560
be in the air and to connect the battle

1065
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:43,500
Fleet so if Nimitz is on one side of the

1066
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,119
Horizon and the planes are on the other

1067
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:47,520
side all the data goes up to the Hawkeye

1068
00:36:51,290 --> 00:36:49,260
and it kind of paints a picture of the

1069
00:36:52,609 --> 00:36:51,300
battle space using all of these

1070
00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:52,619
different sensors

1071
00:36:58,370 --> 00:36:56,040
so those data bricks must have had an

1072
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:58,380
incredible picture on them of this

1073
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,440
encounter PJ also alluded to the fact

1074
00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:03,599
that there were probably more contacts

1075
00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:05,700
you know we've heard various different

1076
00:37:09,650 --> 00:37:08,280
or to me uh various different stories

1077
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:09,660
about the Tic Tac event you know Kevin

1078
00:37:14,329 --> 00:37:11,280
day has said the phrase It's Raining

1079
00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:14,339
UFOs which we've never really you know

1080
00:37:17,329 --> 00:37:15,780
we didn't hear forever say you know it

1081
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:17,339
was raining UFOs it was just one

1082
00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:18,720
encounter

1083
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,020
so what PJ was saying alludes to the

1084
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,480
fact that it's not necessarily that

1085
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:26,160
everyone's kind of got a different story

1086
00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:27,420
it's that they're telling different

1087
00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:29,339
parts of the story that they were more

1088
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,140
than the intercepts that are just fraver

1089
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:32,880
and dear Trek that other people went out

1090
00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:34,320
and not just Chad money from the video

1091
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:35,460
as well

1092
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:38,099
that these encounters carried on and of

1093
00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:39,420
course you would expect them to right if

1094
00:37:41,930 --> 00:37:40,619
there's something mysterious there and

1095
00:37:43,490 --> 00:37:41,940
they contacted it they're not just going

1096
00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:43,500
to leave that alone and go put the data

1097
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:44,820
brick there they're going to keep poking

1098
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:46,260
it and seeing what it's doing if it's

1099
00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:48,359
still around so yeah it seems that

1100
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:50,220
there's a lot more to this Tic Tac story

1101
00:37:55,609 --> 00:37:54,060
he also mentioned that uh luellizando

1102
00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:55,619
has probably seen the data from the

1103
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,060
databricks because they were mentioned

1104
00:38:01,609 --> 00:37:59,040
in an interview which I thought was

1105
00:38:03,770 --> 00:38:01,619
really curious uh you know maybe not in

1106
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:03,780
an interview but it was during a break

1107
00:38:07,310 --> 00:38:05,760
in filming when they were interviewing I

1108
00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:07,320
think they were unidentified he said it

1109
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,700
was like during a break they had a

1110
00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:10,560
conversation and he picked up Lou had

1111
00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:12,420
knowledge that he could only have got

1112
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:14,940
from having seen the data on the bricks

1113
00:38:18,890 --> 00:38:16,920
that's right which is really promising

1114
00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:18,900
because personally I was worried that

1115
00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:20,460
that data had just been deleted and it

1116
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:22,260
was gone and you know into a vault we'll

1117
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,140
never see uh but it seems that someone

1118
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:27,900
has access to this data and so when

1119
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:30,060
people like Lou assert yeah this was an

1120
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:31,740
anomalous event we should probably

1121
00:38:36,290 --> 00:38:34,320
listen a bit more right

1122
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,300
I wanted to ask I don't I don't know if

1123
00:38:39,410 --> 00:38:37,920
I just picked this up wrong as well and

1124
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:39,420
I tried to look through the Tweet thread

1125
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:41,160
because it was a it wasn't all over just

1126
00:38:44,210 --> 00:38:42,720
the way he was responding to people was

1127
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,220
great as well but I was trying to find a

1128
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:46,079
lot of information and dig through he

1129
00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:48,540
mentions at the radar for the Hawkeye

1130
00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:51,720
had to be turned to standby for them to

1131
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,609
yeah he was kind of getting at the

1132
00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:00,240
Sometimes some of these systems can kind

1133
00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:01,740
of interfere with each other and stuff

1134
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:04,140
like that but for me what I took from

1135
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:06,960
that was the the most technical system

1136
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,300
their most sensitive system was the

1137
00:39:13,550 --> 00:39:12,240
system that was turned on and so when

1138
00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:13,560
we're talking about whether there was

1139
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,720
something there or not this system would

1140
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,240
categorically tell you yes or no and it

1141
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:20,160
seems to have said yes and then we have

1142
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:21,660
the part of the story where he you know

1143
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,060
PJ says we saw it with our eyes you know

1144
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:26,400
30 to 40 feet from the craft so yeah

1145
00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:29,400
multiple senses again and very robust

1146
00:39:32,990 --> 00:39:31,260
readings not just like oh it was

1147
00:39:35,150 --> 00:39:33,000
probably a blip on the you know with the

1148
00:39:36,829 --> 00:39:35,160
system it was a technical error

1149
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,839
um when you've got multiple sensors kind

1150
00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:38,160
of picking up and painting a picture of

1151
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,200
this space uh

1152
00:39:43,849 --> 00:39:42,480
it just shows that and I know some

1153
00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:43,859
people hate this phrase but it shows

1154
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:45,780
that there's there there

1155
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:47,760
it's funny as well all of them that were

1156
00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:50,880
just over 12 months and then another

1157
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:54,900
what 10 22 months away from the 20th

1158
00:39:58,609 --> 00:39:57,240
anniversary of that event which given

1159
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,619
we've only been talking about it for a

1160
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,480
few years is a bit strange to say but

1161
00:40:03,710 --> 00:40:02,160
yeah it's something that happened almost

1162
00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:03,720
two decades ago but there are still

1163
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:04,920
information

1164
00:40:09,170 --> 00:40:07,320
pieces coming out and and Leslie Kane

1165
00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:09,180
said on the

1166
00:40:13,069 --> 00:40:11,640
interview with Jimmy choch just recently

1167
00:40:14,930 --> 00:40:13,079
and there wasn't a whole lot of new

1168
00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:14,940
information there Dan we both watched it

1169
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:17,460
but that she still finds that to be

1170
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:20,760
a fascinating case in terms of the data

1171
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,680
that's available from it

1172
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:24,960
um and you feel that there's still more

1173
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:26,760
to come from that as well potentially

1174
00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:29,280
maybe yeah just kind of close by things

1175
00:40:33,650 --> 00:40:30,540
and in the background and this is why

1176
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,660
we've said to be fair and and Congress

1177
00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:35,040
or the senate or whoever's going to be

1178
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:36,660
talking about this in a classified or

1179
00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:39,180
unclassified way is one thing for people

1180
00:40:44,329 --> 00:40:41,460
to say yeah tell us about Roswell well

1181
00:40:47,089 --> 00:40:44,339
okay you can read the documents but 2004

1182
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:47,099
there is going to be so much very very

1183
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,820
up-to-date data and testimony and you

1184
00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:53,040
know these ships are still in

1185
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,320
and service and the aircraft are still

1186
00:40:59,150 --> 00:40:57,119
in service that's how how recent all

1187
00:41:02,270 --> 00:40:59,160
this stuff still really is in the grand

1188
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,280
schema things that there you get far far

1189
00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:04,079
more from it than digging back to the

1190
00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:05,640
40s and 50s

1191
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:09,060
yeah 100 you know we've got Jay Stratton

1192
00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:10,440
um making some appearances this year

1193
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:12,060
where he's going to be talking about his

1194
00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:15,480
time uh with OSAP and running the UAP

1195
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:17,880
task force so he'll be on with corbel

1196
00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:20,760
and napson no doubt right

1197
00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:21,480
um

1198
00:41:26,030 --> 00:41:23,880
he he was the guy who assembled that

1199
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:26,040
first report on the Tic Tac because he

1200
00:41:28,849 --> 00:41:27,300
realized that there was these multiple

1201
00:41:31,970 --> 00:41:28,859
sensors and it was a great place to

1202
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:31,980
start so no doubt we're gonna get his

1203
00:41:35,690 --> 00:41:34,140
his kind of overview and picture of what

1204
00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:35,700
happened as well as probably more

1205
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,380
insight into those data bricks whether

1206
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:39,359
he saw them it's going to be an exciting

1207
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,560
few months

1208
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:43,200
and in the coming months what we do have

1209
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:44,880
definitely coming out on the 1st of

1210
00:41:50,990 --> 00:41:47,940
March 2023 in both book and audio book

1211
00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:51,000
form is Chris bledsoe's story UFO of God

1212
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:52,740
the extraordinary true story of Chris

1213
00:41:58,030 --> 00:41:54,900
Bledsoe is its full title and is

1214
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,040
available to pre-order now on Amazon

1215
00:42:02,030 --> 00:42:00,480
then I'll read the blurb from Amazon

1216
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:02,040
first off because people might not have

1217
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:03,359
seen this yet because the book was

1218
00:42:07,790 --> 00:42:05,700
delayed originally from from January

1219
00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:07,800
and the moment of his Darkest Hour Chris

1220
00:42:11,450 --> 00:42:09,780
Bledsoe a deeply religious Family Man

1221
00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:11,460
and successful business owner had lost

1222
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:13,800
everything in the 2007 financial crisis

1223
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:15,660
and was suffering from a debilitating

1224
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:18,060
chronic disease on his knees along the

1225
00:42:21,470 --> 00:42:19,800
banks of the Cape Fear River he cries

1226
00:42:23,870 --> 00:42:21,480
out to God in a desperate plea for help

1227
00:42:25,569 --> 00:42:23,880
suddenly a UFO appears and saves his

1228
00:42:27,770 --> 00:42:25,579
life and also cures him of his illness

1229
00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:27,780
experiencing four hours of missing time

1230
00:42:31,310 --> 00:42:29,220
and witnessed by three shocked

1231
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:31,320
co-workers and his teenage son they run

1232
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,420
for their lives as several UFOs chased

1233
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:35,520
him home this is the story of the true

1234
00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:38,220
story sorry of Hope Love Lies and

1235
00:42:42,890 --> 00:42:40,020
deception involving officials from the

1236
00:42:45,770 --> 00:42:42,900
US government CIA NASA Dia a string of

1237
00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:45,780
professors and miffon

1238
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:48,420
I'll also just read your Jim semivan's

1239
00:42:51,950 --> 00:42:49,800
quote which I'm guessing is going to be

1240
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:51,960
taken from probably the back as a

1241
00:42:56,810 --> 00:42:53,599
selling point or or maybe the forward

1242
00:42:58,730 --> 00:42:56,820
jump set my fan says Chris has probably

1243
00:43:00,589 --> 00:42:58,740
been visited officially and unofficially

1244
00:43:03,050 --> 00:43:00,599
by more government types and UFO

1245
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:03,060
researchers than any other contactee or

1246
00:43:07,370 --> 00:43:05,160
experiencer there's a reason for this

1247
00:43:09,530 --> 00:43:07,380
the story Chris tells touches very close

1248
00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:09,540
to home for many government officials

1249
00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:11,339
scientists and academics who have either

1250
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:13,560
had a similar experience themselves or

1251
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,480
who are aware of some elements in

1252
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:17,040
Chris's story that they have either

1253
00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:18,740
personally seen or experienced before

1254
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:21,660
officially or unofficially the invisible

1255
00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:23,640
College indeed took notice and so should

1256
00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:24,660
you

1257
00:43:31,970 --> 00:43:29,099
a few times about the the title of the

1258
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,980
book The the cover that's been chosen

1259
00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:33,119
for the book I know you've got some

1260
00:43:37,609 --> 00:43:36,359
thoughts on as an artist as they say and

1261
00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:37,619
um just general thoughts on what you

1262
00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:39,480
expect from the book

1263
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:41,940
uh yeah so Chris's story is a really

1264
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:43,740
interesting one uh it's obviously been

1265
00:43:49,849 --> 00:43:46,800
expanded on with uh his son Ryan's

1266
00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:49,859
podcast uh but if you go back to those

1267
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:52,740
we always refer to Richard Dolan's I

1268
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:54,180
think four or five part interview with

1269
00:43:57,770 --> 00:43:55,380
Chris where he really goes into

1270
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,780
everything in detail uh you know it's a

1271
00:44:02,150 --> 00:43:59,280
really compelling and interesting story

1272
00:44:03,530 --> 00:44:02,160
that does a semi-venom assist there it

1273
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,540
doesn't involve a lot of Government

1274
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:06,000
contact even you know Tom and Lou went

1275
00:44:10,670 --> 00:44:07,680
to see Chris and there are some photos

1276
00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:10,680
around online uh when when to the Stars

1277
00:44:14,329 --> 00:44:12,839
was kind of starting to pick up pace you

1278
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,339
know they went to see Chris to talk

1279
00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:16,319
about maybe telling his story

1280
00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:18,420
so it's interesting that they were

1281
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:19,859
interested right

1282
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,319
I'm really curious to kind of see Chris

1283
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:24,720
elaborate that the idea of UFO of God

1284
00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:27,240
you know they they have this religious

1285
00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:29,220
take religious angle on the phenomena

1286
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:32,220
that not everyone agrees with and I

1287
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,839
would include myself in that just in the

1288
00:44:37,849 --> 00:44:35,280
sense that you know when when something

1289
00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:37,859
comes down in a spaceship and and says I

1290
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:40,740
am God you've got a quote Star Trek and

1291
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:42,839
feel what does God need with a spaceship

1292
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:44,040
you know

1293
00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:52,609
yeah I was just gonna say these things

1294
00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:54,660
seem to be able to present uh whatever

1295
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,339
image they want to us there are so many

1296
00:45:00,650 --> 00:44:57,839
cases where

1297
00:45:02,089 --> 00:45:00,660
people see one thing and a witness next

1298
00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:02,099
to them will see a complete other things

1299
00:45:06,410 --> 00:45:03,780
so we know that there's cognitive

1300
00:45:08,750 --> 00:45:06,420
manipulation there and that's why I'm a

1301
00:45:11,089 --> 00:45:08,760
little bit skeptical about it being a

1302
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:11,099
religious thing uh and wonder that maybe

1303
00:45:15,230 --> 00:45:12,420
you know whether our expectations

1304
00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:15,240
influence how it appears to us the cover

1305
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:17,160
is interesting to me because it's uh

1306
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,740
cover that it's a painting that is often

1307
00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:22,079
kind of said to evoke the phenomena you

1308
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:23,460
know you've got Jesus there making the

1309
00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:25,740
symbol with his hand holding a knob that

1310
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:28,140
has three lights in it uh however I

1311
00:45:33,410 --> 00:45:30,000
would implore everyone to go watch the

1312
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,420
Lost Leonardo uh the basically describes

1313
00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:35,760
how that painting isn't even necessarily

1314
00:45:40,849 --> 00:45:38,280
a da Vinci painting and that was

1315
00:45:43,849 --> 00:45:40,859
repainted you know about I want to say

1316
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:43,859
like 85 to 90 of it was repainted by a

1317
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:45,680
painting repair

1318
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:48,480
specialist and there's a there's a whole

1319
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:51,180
bunch of Europe around that painting how

1320
00:45:54,650 --> 00:45:52,859
much it was sold for you know its

1321
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:54,660
history and things like that it's not

1322
00:45:58,849 --> 00:45:56,940
necessarily straight up and what what it

1323
00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:58,859
seems to be so I'd recommend everyone go

1324
00:46:02,089 --> 00:46:00,180
watch that documentary just so they're a

1325
00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:02,099
bit informed about that painting and and

1326
00:46:08,089 --> 00:46:04,859
the ideas around it but just long story

1327
00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:08,099
short it's potentially a fake that was

1328
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:09,780
legitimized through

1329
00:46:13,550 --> 00:46:12,119
one of the biggest you know the highest

1330
00:46:16,849 --> 00:46:13,560
auctions

1331
00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:16,859
for uh are being sold in the history of

1332
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:19,020
the world ever then it now lives in

1333
00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:21,420
Saudi and the the film kind of puts the

1334
00:46:26,329 --> 00:46:23,339
idea forward that actually this this was

1335
00:46:28,010 --> 00:46:26,339
legitimized because it was sold for such

1336
00:46:29,569 --> 00:46:28,020
a high amount and now it's worth that

1337
00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:29,579
amount regardless of whether it's a da

1338
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:31,140
Vinci painting or not which is kind of

1339
00:46:34,609 --> 00:46:33,180
interesting you know the value of art is

1340
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,619
always up for debate

1341
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,720
but yeah what are your thoughts are you

1342
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:39,359
looking forward to reading the book

1343
00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:43,440
yeah I am um I think I've always been

1344
00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:45,420
not on the fence with it I find the

1345
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:47,700
story fascinating and I think there are

1346
00:46:52,849 --> 00:46:50,460
far too many agencies who have been

1347
00:46:54,589 --> 00:46:52,859
involved and visited the bledsos for

1348
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,599
this just to be

1349
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:56,880
to be nothing because there's too much

1350
00:47:01,730 --> 00:46:59,640
there and the the amount of pictures

1351
00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:01,740
that that rhyme bledso particular has

1352
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,740
posted online of his family with again

1353
00:47:11,630 --> 00:47:07,200
quite important officials in various

1354
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,640
pictures is again too much to to say

1355
00:47:15,890 --> 00:47:13,440
there's nothing to it

1356
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,900
what I have said though is that I think

1357
00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:18,000
the same as other people there are times

1358
00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:20,040
where Chris bledso or will post videos

1359
00:47:25,130 --> 00:47:22,140
online which

1360
00:47:26,930 --> 00:47:25,140
there could just be satellites

1361
00:47:30,410 --> 00:47:26,940
you know above the property and it's

1362
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:30,420
hard to to see otherwise just because

1363
00:47:33,290 --> 00:47:31,440
um

1364
00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:33,300
there's no other data around it and

1365
00:47:36,349 --> 00:47:34,859
there's no context there's a light in

1366
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,359
the sky moving along

1367
00:47:40,849 --> 00:47:39,119
so but I I was very honest and I I said

1368
00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:40,859
to rhyme when I interviewed Ryan bledso

1369
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,560
that the the orb phenomena is one I tend

1370
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:45,119
to struggle with at times not that I

1371
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,640
don't believe it but there are and I saw

1372
00:47:52,010 --> 00:47:50,160
um on Facebook God Mark d'antonio and

1373
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:52,020
Grant Cameron having a bit of a back and

1374
00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:53,880
forward because Grant was taking some

1375
00:47:58,250 --> 00:47:55,740
pictures to which Mark d'antonio

1376
00:48:00,050 --> 00:47:58,260
repeatedly but very nicely was sent to

1377
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,060
Grant take the pictures without the

1378
00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:02,160
flash on those objects will not appear

1379
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:03,720
because what you're taking is pictures

1380
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,900
of dust in the air to which Grant argued

1381
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:08,880
against that Grant then took some

1382
00:48:12,770 --> 00:48:10,200
pictures without the flash but in a very

1383
00:48:14,329 --> 00:48:12,780
well lit room and there was no orb and

1384
00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:14,339
yeah so

1385
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:16,500
it's a very difficult one the whole orb

1386
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:19,020
phenomena and I don't disbelieve people

1387
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:20,880
who say they have seen them the

1388
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:23,280
photographs you can't deny though look

1389
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:25,380
like usually dust or something coming

1390
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:26,880
across the lens because we've all we've

1391
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,560
all seen that but there are some really

1392
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:30,240
interesting ones so

1393
00:48:33,710 --> 00:48:32,220
it'll be interesting to see how that

1394
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,720
story is developed for Christmas family

1395
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:35,280
over the years I don't know has it been

1396
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:38,520
one that maybe it died off as time went

1397
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:40,260
on you know why would it have hung

1398
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,660
around it there's a lot I'm sure that

1399
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,160
we'll find out within the book itself

1400
00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:45,839
and we'll get some context filled in

1401
00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:47,160
around that as well because Chris

1402
00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:48,540
Bledsoe doesn't like you say he doesn't

1403
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:50,040
put himself out there for loads of

1404
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,359
interviews he will be coming on the

1405
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:53,520
podcast that first week in March and I

1406
00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:55,140
look forward to that and no doubt at the

1407
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,819
time he is going to be doing a ton of

1408
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,800
different interviews so we'll get to see

1409
00:49:02,809 --> 00:49:00,480
and hear a lot of context behind that

1410
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:02,819
and from the book as well so yeah really

1411
00:49:05,930 --> 00:49:04,140
looking forward to it I'm glad to see

1412
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,940
it's finally getting put down

1413
00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:07,440
and um

1414
00:49:11,569 --> 00:49:09,480
to see it does the story have a full

1415
00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:11,579
stop at the end of it or is it one that

1416
00:49:15,650 --> 00:49:13,740
is still very much going on

1417
00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:15,660
yeah I think I think that's a really

1418
00:49:18,589 --> 00:49:16,980
good way of looking at it it's going to

1419
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,599
be to be continued it makes me think of

1420
00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:21,119
Dorothy Isaac and and that story

1421
00:49:25,609 --> 00:49:23,460
um except with Dorothy you know she she

1422
00:49:27,710 --> 00:49:25,619
exposed herself to the media in such a

1423
00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:27,720
way that people went there with cameras

1424
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:29,160
that weren't her camera and tried to

1425
00:49:32,930 --> 00:49:31,380
film The phenomena and found that when

1426
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:32,940
she was holding it the phenomena would

1427
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:35,460
appear and when someone else was holding

1428
00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:38,160
the camera it wouldn't appear so there

1429
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,700
seems to be uh a mysterious factor to

1430
00:49:46,430 --> 00:49:43,920
this orc phenomena

1431
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,440
um so yeah the more exposure the Chris

1432
00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:48,240
gets the better I think with this story

1433
00:49:52,010 --> 00:49:50,040
uh you know let people go to the house

1434
00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:52,020
let people offer to film it let 60

1435
00:49:55,849 --> 00:49:54,180
Minutes go hey can we set up a you know

1436
00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:55,859
a couple of infrared cameras around your

1437
00:49:59,690 --> 00:49:58,260
house and and you know definitively say

1438
00:50:01,550 --> 00:49:59,700
whether this is something real or

1439
00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:01,560
whether it's something that's just you

1440
00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:04,380
know dust or something prose uh that

1441
00:50:07,849 --> 00:50:06,119
that's ahead of us so yeah I'm really

1442
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,859
curious and excited for all those kind

1443
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:09,599
of things to to develop

1444
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:10,920
do you know what we need to make a point

1445
00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:12,540
of getting that interview or that sorry

1446
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,460
that reviewer done for the Dorothy Isaac

1447
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:15,839
documentary because we both watched that

1448
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,400
didn't we a few months ago now and we've

1449
00:50:20,690 --> 00:50:19,200
got the notes for it and it's a lot of

1450
00:50:22,970 --> 00:50:20,700
good timing to get that recorded before

1451
00:50:24,410 --> 00:50:22,980
Chris's book comes out um if anyone does

1452
00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:24,420
have an interest in the orb phenomena

1453
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,220
that is one word even someone like

1454
00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:28,800
myself who is very skeptical in a lot of

1455
00:50:34,190 --> 00:50:31,319
the orb stuff I watched that and was

1456
00:50:36,290 --> 00:50:34,200
pretty impressed with the quality of it

1457
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:36,300
and I really I think I said to you Dan I

1458
00:50:42,050 --> 00:50:38,460
was surprised by the documentary not

1459
00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:42,060
expecting it to be what it was and yeah

1460
00:50:45,410 --> 00:50:43,380
that there was definitely something

1461
00:50:47,569 --> 00:50:45,420
going on there you know but without a

1462
00:50:51,049 --> 00:50:47,579
doubt just given the technology she was

1463
00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:51,059
using the the person herself her history

1464
00:50:54,349 --> 00:50:52,920
her background or story

1465
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:54,359
um and that'll probably one that ties in

1466
00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:55,680
nicely so yeah if you have not checked

1467
00:50:59,450 --> 00:50:57,720
out uh Dorothy Isaac story it's

1468
00:51:00,849 --> 00:50:59,460
available on Amazon Prime to rent and

1469
00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:00,859
probably some other platforms as well

1470
00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:03,540
I'd also recommend people go listen to

1471
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:05,460
there were two points of convergence

1472
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:08,220
podcast episodes uh on the whole case

1473
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:09,839
where they kind of went a bit wider went

1474
00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:11,220
into the book kind of included some

1475
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:12,300
information that isn't in the

1476
00:51:16,670 --> 00:51:14,760
documentary highly recommend those yeah

1477
00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:16,680
go for it folks um so yeah that's out

1478
00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:18,839
March 1st and just finally for uh Ryan

1479
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,480
Graves has started a podcast as well

1480
00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:23,520
merge merge Point

1481
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:25,140
um one of the listeners Dan had asked

1482
00:51:29,930 --> 00:51:28,500
Sean uh what did oh no it wasn't uh it

1483
00:51:32,450 --> 00:51:29,940
was Daniel sure I had another question

1484
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:32,460
Daniel had asked um what did you think

1485
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:34,980
of merged podcast first episode so Ryan

1486
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:38,220
Graves spoke to Gary Nolan didn't he

1487
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,599
yeah that's right it was really

1488
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,520
interesting really well presented again

1489
00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:43,440
like the weaponized one just the

1490
00:51:50,049 --> 00:51:45,780
production value was really high and and

1491
00:51:55,309 --> 00:51:53,329
yeah you know it looks like the Lex

1492
00:51:57,049 --> 00:51:55,319
freedma podcast but it's talking

1493
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:57,059
exclusively about the phenomena about

1494
00:52:01,609 --> 00:51:59,940
UFOs about everything you know that Gary

1495
00:52:02,990 --> 00:52:01,619
does and there were some really

1496
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:03,000
interesting statements in there from

1497
00:52:05,809 --> 00:52:03,839
Gary

1498
00:52:07,849 --> 00:52:05,819
um not least of which was was him

1499
00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:07,859
talking about an event uh organized by

1500
00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:11,160
Sean Parker of of Napster Fame uh where

1501
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:13,800
Lady Gaga was present and listening to

1502
00:52:19,130 --> 00:52:15,960
and apparently enthusiastic about UAP

1503
00:52:21,470 --> 00:52:19,140
research so it paints this picture that

1504
00:52:23,089 --> 00:52:21,480
uh there are a lot of people out there

1505
00:52:24,770 --> 00:52:23,099
who are really interested in this but

1506
00:52:26,510 --> 00:52:24,780
they don't want to be part of the UFO

1507
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,520
Community I think we're going to see

1508
00:52:29,809 --> 00:52:28,079
that more and more going forward and

1509
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:29,819
that that's kind of what Lou Alexander

1510
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,140
was alluding to when he said ufology

1511
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,359
needs to die you know it's it's going to

1512
00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:36,000
be redefined going forward by

1513
00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:38,460
just the the virtue of having more

1514
00:52:42,109 --> 00:52:40,440
attention uh you know we're not going to

1515
00:52:45,890 --> 00:52:42,119
be in this like little side hole talking

1516
00:52:47,329 --> 00:52:45,900
about UFOs and aliens and Pleiadians and

1517
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:47,339
reptilians and things like that it's

1518
00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:49,040
going to be a mainstream conversation

1519
00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:52,200
that scientists and engineers and people

1520
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:53,940
like that are all going to come to flock

1521
00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:56,520
to this and yeah hopefully it won't be a

1522
00:52:59,630 --> 00:52:58,140
mystery for much longer

1523
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:59,640
another question that was asked and

1524
00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:00,960
again just before I go back to the Ryan

1525
00:53:05,210 --> 00:53:03,240
Graves uh question or the question off

1526
00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:05,220
the back of the Ryan Graves uh comments

1527
00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:07,740
uh from Sean he wanted to know who we

1528
00:53:12,049 --> 00:53:10,260
think and we touched on it gently what

1529
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,059
sort of guests will be on George Knapp

1530
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,920
and Jeremy corbell's podcast what do we

1531
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,839
think Jay Stratton we said straight away

1532
00:53:20,809 --> 00:53:17,760
I think you'll see a lot of The Usual

1533
00:53:24,770 --> 00:53:20,819
Suspects but I think for me the value

1534
00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:24,780
and and what they could get isn't the

1535
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:26,280
people who are going to come onto this

1536
00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:28,680
podcast and Ryan Sprague's podcast and

1537
00:53:32,410 --> 00:53:30,540
you know The Black Vault that's those

1538
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:32,420
guests go on to those podcasts anyway

1539
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:36,960
it's the the testimony of individuals

1540
00:53:41,150 --> 00:53:39,839
like Jeremy played on his phone who I

1541
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,160
don't know and can't get in touch with

1542
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,440
but Jeremy has the contacts or the

1543
00:53:46,970 --> 00:53:45,359
resources to go and speak to them you

1544
00:53:49,130 --> 00:53:46,980
know like when Linda Moulton house sits

1545
00:53:52,130 --> 00:53:49,140
and reads an anonymous piece of

1546
00:53:55,569 --> 00:53:52,140
testimony from a pilot who remote viewed

1547
00:53:59,450 --> 00:53:55,579
the war in Mars from Antarctica in 2050

1548
00:54:01,130 --> 00:53:59,460
uh no offense but I I like to see that

1549
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:01,140
Jeremy could go and speak to the

1550
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,640
individuals and potentially get the

1551
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:05,280
audio recordings to say you were part of

1552
00:54:08,030 --> 00:54:06,720
the woman having you were part of the

1553
00:54:09,770 --> 00:54:08,040
Russell you were on the limits of

1554
00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:09,780
Princeton or events that we don't know

1555
00:54:13,549 --> 00:54:11,819
about what did you see and you get to

1556
00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:13,559
hear or potentially see those people

1557
00:54:17,390 --> 00:54:15,720
talk about them too I think that's where

1558
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,400
there could be a lot of Merit and a lot

1559
00:54:22,609 --> 00:54:20,400
of credibility from from that podcast

1560
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,619
yeah I completely agree you know one one

1561
00:54:25,609 --> 00:54:24,240
of the things that Ryan grave said was

1562
00:54:28,910 --> 00:54:25,619
going to happen on on the merch podcast

1563
00:54:30,650 --> 00:54:28,920
was that he he would be introducing us

1564
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:30,660
to the people that filmed the gimbal

1565
00:54:34,370 --> 00:54:32,700
video and and given us some context from

1566
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,380
those Pilots I think some of them are

1567
00:54:39,170 --> 00:54:36,240
still active but he'll be getting them

1568
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:39,180
on so this is where the you know it's

1569
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:41,880
not just about having a show then it

1570
00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:43,500
it's actually going to push the subject

1571
00:54:47,329 --> 00:54:45,000
forward and it means that when those

1572
00:54:49,549 --> 00:54:47,339
episodes happen we'll probably see waves

1573
00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:49,559
of news coverage so if these shows are

1574
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:51,540
regular and the testimony is regular the

1575
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,000
news coverage will be regular and it all

1576
00:54:58,250 --> 00:54:56,160
builds this momentum uh going forward

1577
00:55:00,170 --> 00:54:58,260
that you know this this secure system

1578
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:00,180
should be getting hammered by

1579
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:02,880
information submissions uh according to

1580
00:55:05,870 --> 00:55:04,260
what we've heard

1581
00:55:08,569 --> 00:55:05,880
um you know they should be getting a lot

1582
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,579
more report into Arrow so we can kind of

1583
00:55:12,349 --> 00:55:10,319
paint a picture of what we expect to see

1584
00:55:14,030 --> 00:55:12,359
in future reports as well based on these

1585
00:55:16,010 --> 00:55:14,040
kind of shows

1586
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,020
uh what I was going to say before Dan

1587
00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:18,000
was that Ryan Graves is on the concrete

1588
00:55:22,190 --> 00:55:20,520
podcast that's concrete with a K and he

1589
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:22,200
mentioned the extended version of the

1590
00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:24,300
gimbal video which he says he's seen and

1591
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,980
we've heard in the past that the gimbal

1592
00:55:30,109 --> 00:55:28,079
video that's the one of the the objects

1593
00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:30,119
flying along and appears to rotate but

1594
00:55:35,569 --> 00:55:32,760
what we've heard is that alongside that

1595
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,579
was it escorting it seemed to be the

1596
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,400
five cubes uh spheres inside of Cubes

1597
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:40,319
groups inside that's for us yeah I

1598
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,520
always get that wrong

1599
00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:43,440
um tubes inside the Spheres yeah chances

1600
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:45,180
are probably some spheres and Kaiser

1601
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:46,800
cubes out there as well yeah that's

1602
00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:48,540
that's the old versions yeah

1603
00:55:52,730 --> 00:55:50,520
um so apparently in a V formation in

1604
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:52,740
front of the gimbal that was really

1605
00:55:56,030 --> 00:55:54,240
interesting and of course would be huge

1606
00:55:57,950 --> 00:55:56,040
to see and he saw it said he saw a

1607
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,960
longer version of it and I asked the

1608
00:56:01,069 --> 00:55:59,280
listeners you know what what sort of

1609
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:01,079
videos would they like to see longer

1610
00:56:04,190 --> 00:56:02,400
versions of

1611
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,200
and I asked you that at the start then

1612
00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:06,480
before we hit record did you have a

1613
00:56:11,089 --> 00:56:08,940
think of what video you would

1614
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:11,099
yeah I mean the the gimbal one is

1615
00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:12,720
definitely high up there for me purely

1616
00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:15,059
because we know that that there exists

1617
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:17,220
an extended form of that video that

1618
00:56:22,010 --> 00:56:20,220
would take the theories of folk like you

1619
00:56:23,870 --> 00:56:22,020
know Mr Weston and just blow them out

1620
00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:23,880
the water and generate a lot more

1621
00:56:27,890 --> 00:56:25,380
questions and a lot more interesting

1622
00:56:30,770 --> 00:56:27,900
kind of simulations to put together that

1623
00:56:33,890 --> 00:56:30,780
would allude to this being anomalous

1624
00:56:35,329 --> 00:56:33,900
the videos that I would like to see the

1625
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,339
extended version of that aren't any of

1626
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:36,720
those three videos because that's kind

1627
00:56:41,329 --> 00:56:39,599
of the easy answer right uh would be the

1628
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:41,339
things like you know we have videos from

1629
00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:43,380
The Golf Breeze sightings

1630
00:56:48,109 --> 00:56:46,200
but we can see the the UFO leave in that

1631
00:56:49,609 --> 00:56:48,119
case so I'm not sure how valuable a

1632
00:56:52,190 --> 00:56:49,619
longer version with bit of that would be

1633
00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:52,200
but certainly things like the Omaha

1634
00:56:55,609 --> 00:56:53,819
sphere you know we can see that that

1635
00:56:57,890 --> 00:56:55,619
goes into the water

1636
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:57,900
um the video starts with it kind of

1637
00:57:01,970 --> 00:57:00,480
floating along I want to see the data

1638
00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:01,980
either side of those two portions

1639
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:04,200
because you know if if it's a swell like

1640
00:57:07,130 --> 00:57:06,000
the debunkers think then that's why I

1641
00:57:08,450 --> 00:57:07,140
was going to reduce and the sphere will

1642
00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:08,460
still be there you know it'll give us

1643
00:57:12,170 --> 00:57:10,619
context and a bit more information about

1644
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:12,180
what happened

1645
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,460
um also chances are that's not the only

1646
00:57:18,109 --> 00:57:16,079
sphere they filmed right so even though

1647
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:18,119
on a technicality I'm not asking for a

1648
00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:19,500
longer video I'm asking for other videos

1649
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,240
from the same event

1650
00:57:25,790 --> 00:57:23,520
um it would probably be that one

1651
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,800
well Randy sharp said great question

1652
00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:27,839
Andy I've not read the thread yet but I

1653
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:29,400
love it and he's not made a suggestion

1654
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:30,480
but I just like the fact that he

1655
00:57:34,670 --> 00:57:31,680
complimented me

1656
00:57:37,309 --> 00:57:34,680
um Justin said the gimbal video as well

1657
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,319
um the other bin said the Navy must have

1658
00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:39,359
high speed footage of tic tacs I want to

1659
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:42,300
see that also the 23 minute video really

1660
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,980
good one from Andrew making the nest

1661
00:57:48,410 --> 00:57:45,839
came up a few times was Holloman Air

1662
00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:48,420
Force Base and there is that document

1663
00:57:54,109 --> 00:57:51,660
that has the the far away shot of what

1664
00:57:55,609 --> 00:57:54,119
has allegedly the UFO that lands on the

1665
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:55,619
airstrip at Holloman it's like a white

1666
00:58:02,210 --> 00:58:00,950
exactly we have the full video the thing

1667
00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:02,220
lands and everything else but that would

1668
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:04,200
be an incredible one to see

1669
00:58:10,670 --> 00:58:07,040
um gimbal Graham Randall gimbal uh

1670
00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:10,680
gimbal Omaha I didn't actually see that

1671
00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:12,839
you'd um replied I like that I'm

1672
00:58:15,710 --> 00:58:14,220
consistent there as well with that

1673
00:58:18,530 --> 00:58:15,720
because I forgot that I replied that

1674
00:58:19,970 --> 00:58:18,540
yeah I'd say though that you know not

1675
00:58:21,770 --> 00:58:19,980
those C that would be too easy but your

1676
00:58:23,450 --> 00:58:21,780
first answer was gimbal

1677
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:23,460
um someone said I'd love to see this

1678
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,319
standard version of the 23 minute video

1679
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:27,119
well yeah I'd just love to see a minute

1680
00:58:32,329 --> 00:58:28,880
of the 23 minute video

1681
00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:32,339
lots of tic tac uh Holloman

1682
00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:33,660
um the jellyfish video that Jeremy

1683
00:58:37,789 --> 00:58:35,880
Corbell talked about on Joe Rogan

1684
00:58:41,690 --> 00:58:37,799
interesting

1685
00:58:43,970 --> 00:58:41,700
kind of alludes to and there are a few

1686
00:58:46,250 --> 00:58:43,980
cases like this as well where the UFO

1687
00:58:48,530 --> 00:58:46,260
seems to be like a curious creature in

1688
00:58:51,049 --> 00:58:48,540
the sky like you know similar to what we

1689
00:58:52,970 --> 00:58:51,059
saw in nope as opposed to a craft being

1690
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:52,980
commanded by someone

1691
00:58:56,690 --> 00:58:55,500
I remember hearing on some some podcasts

1692
00:58:58,490 --> 00:58:56,700
I'm sure it was like Howard Hughes

1693
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,500
unexplained and a few different guests

1694
00:59:01,970 --> 00:59:00,720
talked about and I mean it was a bit out

1695
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:01,980
there but

1696
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,559
and I I suppose similar to the the movie

1697
00:59:08,569 --> 00:59:06,960
nope where the object spoiler alert

1698
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,579
folks if you have not seen it it's been

1699
00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:10,319
a while now and the object is a living

1700
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,660
creature and one of the guests on Howard

1701
00:59:16,370 --> 00:59:14,400
Hughes talked about how there are living

1702
00:59:19,010 --> 00:59:16,380
creatures that live in the sky who could

1703
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,020
be UFOs that we just don't know but they

1704
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:21,119
are natural habitat as the clouds and

1705
00:59:24,650 --> 00:59:22,799
the the different layers of the

1706
00:59:26,329 --> 00:59:24,660
atmosphere and it's a bit of a stretch

1707
00:59:27,470 --> 00:59:26,339
but I like the theory I like the the

1708
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:27,480
thinking

1709
00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:29,760
um uh a few other people said James Fox

1710
00:59:34,730 --> 00:59:31,559
talked about the alien autopsy videos

1711
00:59:37,609 --> 00:59:34,740
the Virginia evidence Phoenix Lights

1712
00:59:38,930 --> 00:59:37,619
um I think for me and it's not I I

1713
00:59:40,490 --> 00:59:38,940
suppose I'm going against my own

1714
00:59:42,829 --> 00:59:40,500
question here but just the video I'd

1715
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:42,839
like to see that we've seen stills of

1716
00:59:49,250 --> 00:59:47,520
allegedly as the the two gents who

1717
00:59:51,410 --> 00:59:49,260
filmed the UFO above their car that I

1718
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:51,420
spoke to James Fox about Chuck Clark the

1719
00:59:57,710 --> 00:59:54,720
chocolate video yeah they described it

1720
00:59:59,930 --> 00:59:57,720
as someone alive yeah like a pendulum

1721
01:00:02,329 --> 00:59:59,940
was going out over the top I don't care

1722
01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:02,339
how degraded that footage allegedly guys

1723
01:00:06,530 --> 01:00:04,200
know I would still want this yet because

1724
01:00:07,789 --> 01:00:06,540
if it's that good I'll squint with one

1725
01:00:09,950 --> 01:00:07,799
eye and close the other and everything

1726
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:09,960
else like but yeah that that for me is a

1727
01:00:13,970 --> 01:00:12,839
must-see on on that footage

1728
01:00:15,710 --> 01:00:13,980
um I remember when it was first

1729
01:00:17,450 --> 01:00:15,720
described by James that a light bulb

1730
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:17,460
went off in my head I was like I think I

1731
01:00:22,670 --> 01:00:19,980
think I've seen that in a movie

1732
01:00:23,930 --> 01:00:22,680
so I went looking for it um and there's

1733
01:00:25,609 --> 01:00:23,940
actually a scene in a film called

1734
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,619
Phoenix forgotten that is very

1735
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:27,359
reminiscent of it you know a bunch of

1736
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:28,319
people are kind of in the middle of

1737
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,240
nowhere they buy a cabin

1738
01:00:33,890 --> 01:00:32,400
um they're in the car and this thing

1739
01:00:35,210 --> 01:00:33,900
comes over the car you don't see it

1740
01:00:37,309 --> 01:00:35,220
swinging like a pendulum or anything

1741
01:00:38,990 --> 01:00:37,319
like that so I'm not insinuating that

1742
01:00:41,089 --> 01:00:39,000
someone's seen this film and then kind

1743
01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:41,099
of passing off as this footage but I

1744
01:00:45,049 --> 01:00:42,359
thought it was interesting that that was

1745
01:00:46,910 --> 01:00:45,059
included and and that was a film made by

1746
01:00:49,370 --> 01:00:46,920
quite a heavy hitter in terms of you

1747
01:00:51,049 --> 01:00:49,380
know the producer as well so I wonder if

1748
01:00:53,390 --> 01:00:51,059
it's you know maybe something that he

1749
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:53,400
saw and actually this video is being

1750
01:00:56,329 --> 01:00:54,900
passed around in circles that we just

1751
01:00:59,450 --> 01:00:56,339
don't know about

1752
01:01:00,829 --> 01:00:59,460
absolutely well Dan uh the any news

1753
01:01:02,510 --> 01:01:00,839
that's coming up in the next week or so

1754
01:01:03,890 --> 01:01:02,520
that you're interested in seeing I say

1755
01:01:06,650 --> 01:01:03,900
that only because I've got something in

1756
01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:06,660
mind the Chicago O'Hare article

1757
01:01:10,130 --> 01:01:08,220
hopefully will come out from the debrief

1758
01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:10,140
that spoke to Chris playing about and I

1759
01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:11,460
know he was hoping for that to have been

1760
01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:13,859
out already but um it should be out soon

1761
01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:15,660
but she'll be very much something I'm

1762
01:01:18,829 --> 01:01:16,980
looking forward to seeing a little bit

1763
01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:18,839
more of because there may be some more

1764
01:01:23,089 --> 01:01:21,540
evidence or anecdotal information to add

1765
01:01:24,829 --> 01:01:23,099
to an already pretty interesting story

1766
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:24,839
anything you've got your eye on in the

1767
01:01:28,010 --> 01:01:25,920
near future

1768
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,020
yeah so I'm excited for that one as well

1769
01:01:31,490 --> 01:01:30,480
the the Ukraine UAP stuff came back up

1770
01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:31,500
this week

1771
01:01:35,870 --> 01:01:34,140
um the the head scientists that was

1772
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:35,880
doing that uh Boris I forget his surname

1773
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,400
now but he's responded to the criticism

1774
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,559
of his original paper and he's made two

1775
01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:42,240
more papers that actually include a lot

1776
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:43,680
more detail

1777
01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:45,839
um and he goes into

1778
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:49,260
basically what the objects are why ease

1779
01:01:54,410 --> 01:01:52,079
decided they're not bugs or or birds or

1780
01:01:56,690 --> 01:01:54,420
artillery and he puts together quite a

1781
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:56,700
compelling case actually and what I

1782
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:58,319
loved about seeing that is that you know

1783
01:02:02,329 --> 01:02:00,240
peer review is about reviewing the

1784
01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:02,339
papers and and refining the work and

1785
01:02:06,770 --> 01:02:04,440
then going back to the instruments and

1786
01:02:09,410 --> 01:02:06,780
seeing what else we can gather for me

1787
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,420
these two papers essentially refute what

1788
01:02:14,030 --> 01:02:12,000
Avi lowep said in his papers so now the

1789
01:02:16,370 --> 01:02:14,040
ball is in Abby loab's Court in terms of

1790
01:02:18,770 --> 01:02:16,380
showing that these are something prosaic

1791
01:02:21,230 --> 01:02:18,780
uh so yeah the beat goes on here you

1792
01:02:24,049 --> 01:02:21,240
know it's worth paying attention to this

1793
01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:24,059
because quite frankly I think like at

1794
01:02:27,289 --> 01:02:25,740
this point the Galileo project should

1795
01:02:29,030 --> 01:02:27,299
probably ship one of their sensor kits

1796
01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:29,040
to this guy in Ukraine and let him use

1797
01:02:33,470 --> 01:02:31,140
it and see what he can gather

1798
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,480
fair enough well Dan I'm just going to

1799
01:02:37,370 --> 01:02:35,520
ask the listeners very quickly before I

1800
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:37,380
wrap up um if you can leave a review in

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01:02:41,809 --> 01:02:39,240
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01:02:43,069 --> 01:02:41,819
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1803
01:02:44,809 --> 01:02:43,079
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01:02:47,089 --> 01:02:44,819
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apple are the big ones obviously but any

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1809
01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:55,140
question Dan

1810
01:03:00,170 --> 01:02:56,700
go on

1811
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:00,180
what do my 20 month year old son and the

1812
01:03:04,370 --> 01:03:02,700
world of UFO news have in common

1813
01:03:05,930 --> 01:03:04,380
I don't know

1814
01:03:08,329 --> 01:03:05,940
they never sleep

1815
01:03:10,190 --> 01:03:08,339
thanks for listening folks that is all

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01:03:12,289 --> 01:03:10,200
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01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:40,799
keep looking up you never know what you

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champagne

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[Music]

1832
01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:18,109
into the game

1833
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,980
it didn't matter I can't imagine how it

1834
01:04:24,349 --> 01:04:21,839
could have been any better I got to the

1835
01:04:32,180 --> 01:04:24,359
top of stairs like you awake I was not

1836
01:05:06,370 --> 01:04:34,130
[Music]

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01:05:06,380 --> 01:05:13,450
nothing over there

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01:05:13,460 --> 01:05:21,970
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01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:24,530
consider your space consider your lies

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01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:35,930
[Music]

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01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:40,290
attack and not quite as awesome

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experience